that was senator mccain's judgment. >> the president also has this tenacity or tendency to ramble. in one democratic debate he appeared to be sleeping. the biggest pitfalls you would recommend that the president needs to avoid? >> i think actually, the rest of us may be sleeping when we watch this debate tomorrow night. however, i think the thing obama will have to work on, in his debate preps, they've been force-feeding him that old clip of hillary, don't do anything like that again. there is the point you just made about speaking in a professorial way. these are not lectures. if he can convey a sense of relaxation that he is not terrified to be there and appreciates the chance to make his case to the american people. those things will work well in his favor. >> for those people that tuned in during the republican primaries, they saw mitt romney being trial by fire, so to speak. sometimes came across thin skinned. >> rick, again, i'm speaking. i'm speaking. i'm speaking. >> it's time for you to tell the truth. >> i get 30 seconds. this is the way the rules work. i get 60 seconds.